Another Ellis Fundraiser


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 03:49:15 AM EST

The Ellis campaign is having another fundraiser on July 12th. I'm assuming those of you who take the time to read political blogs also sign up for campaign updates from the candidates on their websites so you probably already know this.

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Amateur Hour... (none / 0) (#1)
by 11thWardDem on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:36:15 AM EST
I usually try and give Mr. Ellis the benefit of the doubt, but it's clearly amateur hour over at Ellis HQ.

Somebody should have told his new campaign manager, fresh out of the Senate Democratic Conference (great job building that "Majority", by the way), that it probably would have been a better idea to NOT hold a fundraiser on the day AFTER the cut-off date for the first financial filing...

Just another in a long line of missteps, and the long list of reasons that Councilman Ellis should be running for the 3rd Ward instead of letting his seat go to Ron Bailey (the consummate Jennings bucket-carrier).

A bold new vision, indeed...
11thWardDem

happy hours (none / 0) (#2)
by DIA on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:20:57 AM EST
11th ward democrat.  

I'm glad to see that you and the Morris campaign continue to stick to the issues.

Attacking people over their fundraising schedule?

There is something called a position of strength. You can tell when someone is playing from one.

The above comment has none of those characteristics.

Can't wait to see those morris fundraising and signature numbers so we can see how a professional campaign operates.

 

Inexperience is an issue... (none / 0) (#3)
by 11thWardDem on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 09:06:06 AM EST
But I do believe I sense a bit of the pot calling the kettle black here... So when you make an issue out of, well, everything - it's perfectly acceptable because your judgment is somehow better than ours?

Yes, I do believe that running a tight ship is important in taking down an entrenched incumbent with exponentially greater resources... Further, I prefaced my commentary that I am prone to not attacking the Councilman on what I believe to be non-issues.

Your not-so-veiled support for Councilman Ellis is not unnoticed amongst readers, so pardon me for questioning your candidate's decision to leave his seat on the Council to becoming occupied by a Jennings hack...

It would appear to this participant observer that his decision shows a lack of concern for the 3rd Ward, at least when compared to his concern for personal glory.

I too look forward to the submission of signatures too - maybe the folks at Citizen Action will stop their nightly begging of all the volunteers on the Morris campaign to come help their faltering candidate.
11thWardDem
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judgement (none / 0) (#4)
by DIA on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 10:03:08 AM EST
So, Ellis should not run for mayor because he is lettting down the 3rd ward by doing so?  

Is that why shawn morris didn't run for Mayor 4 years ago when Jennings went unchallenged? She was helping the city by not challenging Jennings?

Or should we hold morris accountable when some hack gets in place as the new CC President? Or is the 3rd ward now a more powerful seat than the CD president so it is ok for her to run and vacate her seat?  

Your arguments don't make sense.

It doesn't matter who is on the common council. The only thing that matters is who is mayor. I think I've made that point clear in the last 5 years. I don't recall you being around for much of that discussion.  Interestingly enough, neither was Shawn Morris who has no record of fighting the mayor on anything for the past 16 years.  

My support of Ellis is in large part based on a question you and all other Morris supporters refuse to answer.

"how can Morris beat Jennings when Jennings will clean up in the minority wards just like he did against McEneney and Joyce?"  

Answer that question for me and use it as a way to show what excellent judgement you have. Or are you unaware of the history of voting patterns in Albany?  

Your attacks on Ellis have to do with fear of Ron Bailey, his fundraising schedule, and your apparent dislike of Citizen Action?

Again, you don't mention the issues.

You are setting a pretty high bar for your candidate. I guess if she doesn't crush all the other "faltering" challengers who are begging for the support of the Morris volunteer army, in both signatures and money, than we should have serious concerns about her viability?  We'll know soon enough.

I should note that your candidate had no problem with Citizen Action, at least not publically, until she didn't get their endorsement.  

This is why I like primaries. People can make all the arguments they want on blogs. They can talk theory all day. Running a campaign is another story. I've said from day one that I encouraged both Ellis and Morris to run to see who had a better campaign and more support. We should get a good sense of that in the next month. If your comments are to be believed, Ellis is doomed and has no support and Morris is by far the stronger candidate. If so, great. But I'm not making that decision based on anonymous blog comments.

I've got one final piece of advice for you. Before you accuse someone of doing something like running for mayor for "personal glory", you might want to talk to the person about why they are running for mayor.  Have you done that? When Corey Ellis was voted Metroland Local Hero in 2006 and Metroland's Best Public Servant 2008 and when he received Hudson Valley Community College Humanitarian Service Award in 2007 and NAACP Public Service Award was he doing all that for personal glory?

I don't see any of those types of awards on your candidate's resume despite her 16 years in office.

I really expected better of the Morris campaign than all this petty bullshit. Perhaps you are right, I don't have very good judgement about these issues.

How about a few posts about why your candidate is the better candidate? You know, something about the issues that might make someone want to vote for her?  

11th, would you mind explaining to... (none / 0) (#5)
by Jim Travers on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 11:03:06 AM EST
us folk who are naive about campaigns why it was a bad idea for Ellis to have a fund raiser the day after the cut-off date for the first  financial disclosure filing?

Is it because it's important to show as much money you've raised in the first filing?

I would think that having a fund raiser the day after the filing would allow one's opponent to believe, at least until the next filing, that they were far ahead financially, when in reality the candidate had much more in the bank only one day later than that they disclosed the day before. No?

11thWardDem- crossing the line my friend (none / 0) (#8)
by mayoralracewatcher on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 05:02:28 AM EST
I'm with DIA on this one 11thWard- I enjoy much of your commentary- but, a favorite professor of mine once said, "if anyone ever says your work is "interesting", they're about to follow the remark by basically calling your work boring and you and asshole."

So to preface your comments by saying you don't like to attack Ellis over petty non-issues and then do so, especially when you previously attacked CA over a non-issue in the past, you're being disingenuous.

But lets take a look at your comment and see what possibilities there are as to why Corey has a fund raiser the day after filing. 1.  Ellis' bank account is incredibly high so he doesn't have to worry about maxing out his numbers before the filing date- this theory is more doubtful than not.  2.  Ellis' campaign goes forward with the belief that Morris does not have as much money as he does, or its all money funneled from Mr. Silver, or she doesn't have such a sizable advantage in money over Corey to corroborate her campaign's message that the Ellis campaign is an amateur one.  I file this theory as very likely.  After all, DIA may seem bent towards Corey- but, 11thWardDem, since he gets the Morris campaign updates, I hope you aren't accusing him of not publishing her fundraiser announcements?  Maybe Morris does not send out fund raising announcements because they are all private fund raisers held by Mr. Silver and friends?

3.  The owners of Avenue A could only make the fund raiser on this date...sounds decently likely  to me.

So, as I said, I like your commentary 11thWard.  But I think again that you are doing a disservice to the Morris campaign by showing how palpable your anger is.  And psychologically, anger is always the product of fear and a feeling of injustice and helplessness.  I will not apologize that Corey is running when Shawn has been waiting 15 years for Jerry to be weak enough to run against him.  Morris does not deserve a coronation as much as you would like.  Please comment on issues and stop trying to pretend this race is a media 2.0, congressional/senate race where issues like when fund raisers are held show how campaigns are run...

Another question that I'll ask along with DIAs (which is, in a 3 way race, doesn't Corey win the lower wards, he and Shawn split the upper anti-Jerry votes and Jerry wins the upper supporters of his making Corey the victor?) is this:  I've heard some nasty rumors in the background that Shawn plans on or is actively supporting the convention center.

Is this true my friend?  I hope not....

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I'm bored.. (none / 0) (#6)
by hawkny on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:34:32 PM EST
What else is there to talk about?

We could talk about Scavo (none / 0) (#7)
by Jim Travers on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:26:51 PM EST
He was in the Delaware Plaza  parked in the fire lane.

OK that's a far as I'm willing to go with hijacking the thread.

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3rd ward (none / 0) (#9)
by Spinthecat on Wed Jul 08, 2009 at 05:57:20 AM EST
Months ago Corey promised to find a good candidate to run for his seat if he were to run for Mayor.  Obviously he has broken that promise (although I have heard rumors that someone besides Ron Bailey has been circulating petitions there but I have nothing to back this up).  This gives me pause as to how much we can trust him with other promises.  

Bloggo-American, PLEASE!!! (none / 0) (#10)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Tue Jul 14, 2009 at 05:38:20 AM EST
Now that I am back from collecting signatures for Bailey, Jennings, Lebron and Marlon, where do I start:

DIA - As a person of color I find it offensive that we are just going to gravitate to Ellis because he has a real tan and Morris does not.  Jennings is not going to cleanup, look at the numbers, most stay home, just like white people in the city.  Jennings is not putting asses on the seats like he used to.  Morris has a real shot, and you know I have been really critical of her.  I am probably not going to vote for her for a number of reasons and color has nothing to do with it.  Got news for you too, I ain't voting for Ellis.  At least 11th ward can list stuff Blossom has bitched about.  What has Duane done, WHAT!!!  And please, I chill on Clinton so be very specific.  I have asked you before months ago and I am still waiting for your reponse.

Not surprising though, that democrats think of people of color like a herd of mindless animals that would go with the flow.  The real word in the hood about Ellis, no a good one.  He is not viewed as a champion of the hood and has actually not been seen in the 3rd as much as Mike Brown who I still see once in awhile.  Stop smoking that weak ass shit, like I have told you numerous times, and come drink a 40 oz with us on 2nd st.  Oh, if it means anything, I saw Lebron this weekend collecting signatures in Ellis's ward and hanging out on Clinton and that makes another one I have seen more than Ellis.  I know, he is not going to win, but to make a trip to a ward that is only going to get him 2 signatures is admirable.

Republicans ignore people of color and democrats think we are shit, I want to live in America!!!

The 3rd is fucked this year.  Ignored by Brown, dissed by Duane and on the way to getting a Tanfather clown like Bailey.  I am begging anyone to run PLEASE!  I will make a contribution to anyone who runs there and gives a shit about the hood.

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