City Violence


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 04:13:44 AM EST

Another issue I've been ranting about for years (along with many others) has been the violence in the low income neighborhoods in Albany. While the mayor and his police chiefs have been downplaying it and the media has been leaving it on the back pages, if at all, there have been people talking about it for years.

I have to say I'm surprised to see it on the front page of the Times Union this morning.

Two bits I found particularly interesting to see in the paper.
"People are fearful," said Alice Green, executive director of the Center for Law and Justice. Green has been working with Siena College sociology Professor Mathew Johnson, who recently convened a focus group among inner-city youth. The findings were grim: youngsters in the city's poorest neighborhoods feel hopeless and police are viewed as an occupying force rather than as protectors.
Occupying force. I'm sure that won't be viewed favorably by people telling us we don't understand community policing when we see it.
Some police outreach efforts may have had unintended consequences, added Johnson, who said youngsters felt particularly alienated by the mobile unit that police adopted after the city closed the Arbor Hill police station. With the old police stations, Johnson found, youngsters at least had some familiarity with officers who were assigned there
Have you seen the mobile police station? It's a big RV that gets parked in neighborhoods. I recall what I thought the first time I saw it and it is interesting to see what the kids think. Some people will probably remember there was a lot of opposition to Chief Tuffey's plan to shut down police stations and take away the beat cops and yet he said he knew best. He also said "hold me accountable". I guess we are in that part of the plan now.

I'm on record as being a supporter of beat cops who understand the communities and know the people where they patrol. I can say that I have only had good interactions with the members of the APD who I've gotten to know. I've never had an even slightly negative interaction with any cop that recognizes me when they see me. I will say that there have been several instances where I've dealt with members of the APD and I was someone they didn't know and those typically are a much different experience.

Another point I want to make is that I understand that the police may be viewed as an occupying force. However, the flipside of that is that the police feel like they are working in a war zone. And that kind of work is highly stressful. We can't expect people to look forward to that work or expect people who do it every day not to get pissed off the 100th time some kid gives them shit. I am pretty sure that if I was doing that work every day there would be a point where some kid might have his face ground into the sidewalk with a little extra something. Police brutality? I'm sure the kid would think so. But I've been around enough of the kids from these neighborhoods long enough to have had the thought that what that kid needs is a good hard smack in the head. Their attitudes are beyond frustrating. It really is a no win situation for the APD. So you can't really expect members of the APD to be very fond of any type of criticism over their behavior. It's easy to criticize from the safety of the blogs or the editorial pages. I understand that. But that is the excuse Jennings will always use when you ask him why he doesn't hold members of the APD accountable. He says "when you put on your kevlar vest everyday and go out on the streets...". It's the old "anyone who criticizes the president in a time of war isn't a patriot" argument. It is an excuse for those who don't want to be held accountable. But he isn't a blogger. He is the one in charge of all of this. Tuffey and Jennings are the ones who are responsible for this. I think any person reading this article would say that it sounds like Tuffey's plan isn't working as he promised. He asked to be held accountable. Jennings says he is the CEO of the city. He is ultimately responsible. The old plan is failing. Their block by block program is non existent. What is the new plan? Personally I believe the only new plan that can succeed is new city management. What we don't need is people telling us a convention center is the answer to all of Albany's problems. Which is what Jennings has been saying for years.

If we don't take a comprehensive approach and start fixing these neighborhoods and giving these kids some more opportunities and ending the combative relationship between the people in the neighborhoods and the people trying to help, nothing will change.

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Beat-en ... (none / 0) (#1)
by 1894 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 06:04:44 AM EST
Good points about the beat cops, and the value of actually knowing the cops in your neighborhood. I've had the same experience as DIA -- only positive interactions with cops I know and generally unpleasant ones with cops I don't know.

Nothing like calling the police with a problem, only to have the responding officer(s) treat you like you're the one who did something wrong. How many of us have been told we should just move out of Albany if we don't like being victims of crime?

My former beat cop is on traffic duty now. It's a waste of his talent and experience, and it's real loss to the neighborhood. Chief Tuffey asked us to give his plan time. Time is up. It's not working.

Whither West Hill? (none / 0) (#2)
by 1894 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 06:52:04 AM EST
Oops, I forgot to mount up and ride my favorite hobby horse ...

Hard to imagine how the T-U could write this story and the words "West Hill" don't appear anywhere.

It's just lazy shorthand to mention Arbor Hill repeatedly, when the crime maps show that West Hill is plagued by the greatest concentration of violent crime in Albany. Memo to T-U reporters: Just because both neighborhoods have "Hill" in their names does not make them synonymous or interchangeable. (I guess you would probably never make the same mistake with Pine Hills.)

The T-U also makes the blanket statement that Arbor Hill and the South End are the city's "poorest" neighborhoods. It's a safe bet that statement is factually incorrect. I'm confident that the census tract information would show that West Hill is poorer than both ... It's a failure of both reporting and editing when this ubsubstantiated stuff makes it into the paper as "fact."

semantics (none / 0) (#3)
by hailstorm on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 08:35:40 AM EST
west hill and arbor hill are right next to each other, they're not huge neighborhoods (the two combined are probably still smaller than the "south end" catch all phrase) and both neighborhoods have the same problems.

arbor hill is eseentially used to mean "north end".

we have far greater problems to deal with here than the timesunion's semantics.

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Not so ... (none / 0) (#4)
by 1894 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 09:14:55 AM EST
west hill and arbor hill are right next to each other, they're not huge neighborhoods (the two combined are probably still smaller than the "south end"

The map of Albany's neighborhoods doesn't back you up that:

http://councilalbanyna.tripod.com/images/nbrhdassoc.pdf

It's the same map that the Albany Police Department uses for its crime mapping site, and  how it deploys resources:

http://www.albany-ny.org/freeance/Client/PublicAccess1/index.html?appconfig=NEIGHBORHOOD_PART1

Compare West Hill and Arbor Hill on a weekly basis, and you will learn (or be able to infer) two things: (1) There is more crime in West Hill. (2) Residents of Arbor Hill have a legitimate complaint in not wanting to be lumped in with a more crime-ridden adjoining neighborhood.

It's not just semantics. It's part of a long pattern of using "Arbor Hill" as a social descriptor rather than an actual geography. I've lost count of how many times a serious crime occured elsewhere, and the print and broadcast media gave the location as Arbor Hill. (Two TV stations initially had the Kathina Thomas murder in AH, even though it was solidly in West Hill.) I complain every time the mistake is made - i.e. many times each year. I'm usually able to get a correction. The map is the map.

ok (none / 0) (#5)
by hailstorm on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08:51 AM EST
ok, so i over-estimated the size of the "south end" by including parts of what is covered by the delaware ave, mt hope, and 2nd avenue associations.  it's still the "south" part of the city, just like arbor hill and west hill are the "north".

arbor hill and west hill are still next to each other and share similar demographics.  one may have more crime than the other at the moment, but you could say that about hudson/park and center square as well.  the prevailing demographics in those areas are also similar.

the point is, the areas of the city north of central ave have similar problems and similar demographics.  arguing semantics won't change that.

it's like how people who live in colonie or east greenbush say they're from "albany" when they're on vacation somewhere and are asked.

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North of due north ... (none / 0) (#6)
by 1894 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:59:46 AM EST
it's still the "south" part of the city, just like arbor hill and west hill are the "north".

I would quibble again on this one. What about all of North Albany? It's a significant part of the city that doesn't share what you say is a common demographic in the "north" part of the city.

arbor hill and west hill are still next to each other and share similar demographics.

Similar in some regards, but different. Arbor Hill, and particularly lower Arbor Hill, beats West Hill on every important demographic marker: median income, educational attainment, etc. I'm not trying to vilify West Hill, but it's gotten progressively worse in recent years, while there has been a fair amount of progress and improvement in Arbor Hill.

For a better understanding of why people are... (none / 0) (#7)
by Jim Travers on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:03:51 PM EST
so fearful, please read Douglas Blackmon's excellent book,
Slavery By Another Name on how that came to be.

http://www.slaverybyanothername.com./

Please at least read Bill Moyers interview with Blackmon:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06202008/watch2.html

Blackmon is the Atlanta bureau chief of the Wall Street Journal.

"DOUGLAS BLACKMON: Well, there's no way that anybody can read this book and come away still wondering why there is a sort of fundamental cultural suspicion among African-Americans of the judicial system, for instance.
I mean, that suspicion is incredibly well-founded. The judicial system, the law enforcement system of the South became primarily an instrument of coercing people into labor and intimidating blacks away from their civil rights. That was its primary purpose, not the punishment of lawbreakers. And so, yes, these events build an unavoidable and irrefutable case for the kind of anger that still percolates among many, many African-Americans today."

If you need to view another perspective please read Jacob Riis' How the Other Half Lives.
Riis (1849-1914) was a muck-raking journalist who documented conditions in the slums of late 19th century New York.

Here's a passage about those poor who survived by eeking out a living scavaging garbage for the 'riches' the landfills and ash-cans held.

""The discovery was made by earlier explorers that there is money in New York's ash-barrel, but it was left to the genius of the padrone to develop the full resources of the mine that has become the exclusive preserve of the Italian immigrant. Only a few years ago, when rag-picking was carried on in a desultory and irresponsible sort of way, the city hired gangs of men to trim the ash-scows before they were sent out to sea. The trimming consisted in levelling out the dirt as it was dumped from the carts, so that the scow might be evenly loaded. The men were paid a dollar and a half a day, kept what they found that was worth having, and allowed the swarms of Italians who hung about the dumps to do the heavy work for them, letting them have their pick of the loads for their trouble. To-day Italians contract for the work, paying large sums to be permitted to do it. The city received not less than $80,000 last year for the sale of this privilege to the contractors, who in addition have to pay gangs of their countrymen for sorting out the bones, rags tin cans and other waste that are found in the ashes and form the staples of their trade and their sources of revenue. The effect has been vastly to increase the power of the padrone, or his ally, the contractor, by giving him exclusive control of the one industry in which the Italian was formerly independent "dealer," and reducing him literally to the plane of the dump. Whenever the back of the sanitary police is turned, he will make his home in the filthy burrows where he works by day, sleeping and eating his meals under the dump, on the edge of slimy depths and amid surroundings full of unutterable horror. The city did not bargain to house, though it is content to board, him so long as he can make the ash-barrels yield the food to keep him alive, and a vigorous campaign is carried on at intervals against these unlicensed dump settlements; but the temptation of having to pay no rent is too strong, and they are driven from one dump only to find lodgement under another a few blocks farther up or down the river. The fiercest warfare is waged over the patronage of the dumps by rival factions represented by opposing contractors, and it has happened that the defeated party has endeavored to capture by strategy what he failed to carry by assault. It augurs unsuspected adaptability in the Italian to our system of self-government that these rivalries have more than once been suspected of being behind the sharpening of city ordinances, that were apparently made in good faith to prevent meddling with the refuse in the ash-barrels or in transit."

The book's photos are evocative and moving in a way Riis's words cannot convey.

Terrific book (none / 0) (#8)
by Tom Paine on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:27:52 AM EST
Yes, it's an excellent book. I got my dad a copy for Father's day, my son a copy for the heck of it, and got back a copy for father's day myself. ;)

The stories and photos are haunting. It absolutely helps explain why some folks rightly might not trust the whole system of law enforcement. Of course just paying attention to what goes on here locally can give you the same perspective.

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